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Perhaps up coming some need for the stretched generations suddenly appearing in the this new heraldry will come so you can white

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Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Palms

associations of your professionals, (this new Wingfields was investigated fairly well, and despite my personal typo to your Howard loved ones, I do feel the pedigree correctly annotated in RI) >>

I’m not sure this is exactly an exact declaration. Does your publication address the latest age group *prior* in order to John Russell whom e the mother and father away from Age Russell which m Sir Robert Wingfield ?

Re: ? Comyn wife off Malise

You will find next so you can submit a few of the gaps your inform you forthe high-grandparents out-of Reginald ce Cheyne. One of many primaryadditions is due to their paternal granny (NN on your own article) havingbeen Mary de- Moravia (als de Moray), sibling and coheiress out of Freskinde Moravia out-of Duffus (her parents Walter de Moravia and you can Euphemia ofRoss appear less than). There is the concern concerning his maternalgrandmother: I hold she are Joanna de Menteith, 2nd spouse out of Malise,Earl from Strathearn. This should no less than offer a virtually explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen away from Strathearn (wife successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the father, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed for Helen de- Menteith, aunt off Joanna and you can spouse out of Sir ColinCampbell away from Lochow (d. bef May 1343).

Unfortuitously, I do believe you can find additional openings for the Muriel Keith’sancestry (look for below). Regarding often enhancements recommended towards tablesbelow, delight indicates of every detailed problems, or what documentationmight suggest one mistake listed.

I have holes in ancestries, however, ferociously because off Reginald.For Muriel Keith, her high-grandparents We show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton

I’m not conscious of one files supporting the identity for the companion just like the Barbara Seton. When you yourself have noted one, delight indicates.

step 3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander out of /Fraser/ Chamberlain off Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/

Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (or de- Brus), together with good son John defined as ‘nepos’ away from Robert _the_Bruce. Which son is a more youthful John, but not, and never his heir. John Fraser, afterwards lord out of Aboyne, are the brand new young man away from an initial matrimony (it wife unfamiliar; I have which into the expert regarding Andrew MacEwen).

3 Walter de Moravia (son off Hugh de Moravia, and you can Annabela off Fife) 4 Euphemia of Ross (dau. from Fearchar, initially Earl regarding Ross and you will NN deBrus)

5 Malise, sixth Earl out of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (young buck off Walter Stewart, Elizabeth away from Menteith and you will

The fresh new consanguinity between Muriel Keith and Reginald ce Cheyne -known to was basically good-grandson of Malise, Earl from Strathearn (d.1312) – is the only research (when the secondary) these several individualshad one predecessor/ancestress in keeping.

You will find openings in ancestries, however, fiercely in that off Reginald.Getting Muriel Keith, their unique higher-grandparents We show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander away from /Fraser/ Chamberlain away from Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/eight NN Fraser8 NN

To have Reginald le Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, step 3 NN, 4 NN5 Malise, sixth Earl of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 and you can 8 NN

Re: Agnes Beler

Woodford, very early 15the century, for the Leicestershire. Elizabeth is the brand new d Villiers and you will Agnes Beler. Today, I would like to connect Agnes so you’re able to Sir Roger Beler, slain because of the Eustace de Folville, but I can’t get a hold of one information about their particular. Is also anybody help?


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